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[bluegreen17]

this is for my friend ash hellokittyfreak

have you ever had a 'double dream'? where you wake up only to find out the waking up is part of the dream? i think that's the kind of dream we're in. when we really wake up,it WILL be perfect. i can't think of a correlation in christianity at the moment,but in buddhism waking up is realizing your buddhahood,your perfection,and being enlightened. maybe in christianity it's heaven...the kingdom of heaven within...did you ever see 'field of dreams'?

(it's one of my favorite movies,and fits in with this theme,here).

ray's deceased dad is on the ballfield and asks
'is this heaven?'
ray looks around,at his field,his house,his wife and daughter sitting on the porch swing in a lovely blue twilight,ponders,and says
'yeah...yeah,this is heaven'.

i'm asleep most of the time, and i tend to have a lot of nightmares...not as bad as some folks,but more frequently than many...but i wake up once in a while.i know it's here because i've been here.

'you know there's somewhere else where it's easier than this'
-foo fighters,'aurora'

and then there's george bailey in 'it's a wonderful (or as my sister sara solarfields accidentally wrote once 'wonderflu') life'...

'my mouth's bleeding,my mouth's bleeding! how about that?'

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[orionrising.livejournal.com]

Here is the Christian parallel of awakening:

From Everyday Catholic; God in Our Midst; by Richard Rohr:

"God is trying to tell us that there is nothing we need to earn, there is nothing we can attain or accomplish, there is nothing to work up to. We've already "got it" by being part of the family of God. Our relationship with God is about awakening rather than accomplishing, realizing rather than performing."

"Once we accept and believe that we are made in God's image, we have found our identity. We don't have to be so preoccupied with roles and titles, with clothing and cars and all the things the world holds up as ideals. We do not need material things to assure us that we are special. We know we are radically significant by reason of being a son or a daughter of the Lord. We have less need to be visible or showy, to make a name for ourselves, to take our place in history. We no longer need our 15 minutes of fame—because we know we're famous!"

"Our family of origin is divine. You don't get much better than that!"

[bluegreen17]

this is interesting. i was raised catholic and it was emphasized that we had to 'be good' and earn our way to heaven in order not to go to hell. and most of us would have to do a stint in purgatory. and unbaptized babies ended up in limbo forever.

Our relationship with God is about awakening rather than accomplishing, realizing rather than performing."

this sounds more like advaita hinduism or buddhism to me.
this really is antithetical to what i was taught. i'm not refuting anything...i'm just wondering,has catholicism changed that much? anyway,i think it's a much better viewpoint,but i'm just perplexed because it's the opposite of what i was taught in catholic school. i'm befuddled. fyi:i went to catholic school in the mid to late sixties.

any further info or thoughts you can give me on this?

by the way,i bought the book by daniel johnston called 'lessons for living' and it's excellent. he explained motivation in a way that really helped me,as i've been looking for help with motivation for ages and found nothing. so thank you for pointing the way to that website the other day.

[orionrising.livejournal.com]

Well, the Catholic church is a living growing church, so the understanding of things is growing and expanding as God teaches us while being in harmony with the old.

We don't earn our way into heaven, but God still purifies us through lessons and life experiences....and part of that purification is seeing mistakes from the past and not doing them again, like the burning of witches, etc...

I grew up in it during the 70's and 80's so to me this is normal....to just speak from the heart and see others with the heart, not based on what religion the person is or what rules they follow.

I can't remember the exact words that the Pope used about it....but our understanding of things is more universal and eucheminical.

We cannot hold on to idols of legalistic rules because sometimes God gives us disciplines that are temporary and serve a purpose at that particular time, and then we grow in understanding.

No one religion stays exactly the same....they all grow in understanding....and hopefully we are growing together towards the same goal.

We do still see the good in other religions and acknowledge the good, while at the same time maintaining that Christ is the way. We think of other religions as a pre-gospel or preparation that God gives them. Part of living 'The Way' is to see the good in all of creation and seeing God active in all people, religions, cultures, etc.....

Have you read the new Cathecism yet?

[hellokittyfreak.livejournal.com]

Thank you Diane. xoxo Ash