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Love isn't a state of perfect caring. It is an active noun like struggle. To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.
- Mr. Rogers

i haven't started my last load of laundry YET. and i've got dishes to wash too. AND i'm supposed to go to bed early because tomorrow i start on my new earlier work schedule,1:30-10 instead of 3-11:30,which means i need to leave home at 12:30. i feel like i have to rush to go to bed only to have to rush to get up in the morning. rush,rush,rush. grrr....

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Love isn't a state of perfect caring. It is an active noun like struggle. To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.
- Mr. Rogers

I wish more people would remember that.

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Gotta love Mr. Rogers. What a wise man he was.

I know what you mean about rushing about from place to place. I hate that feeling. I myself ought to be in bed so I get try to get to the DMV early in the morning. Maybe THIS time they'll be open. I really hate waiting in lines.

"Love isn't a state of perfect caring. It is an active noun like struggle. To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.
- Mr. Rogers"

Interesting he should use the word "struggle" since I'm still struggling to decide if love is in fact equatable with acceptance.

I'm leaning towards no, since I *think* acceptance is neutral ground between emotion, between like and dislike, whereas love isn't.

i think indifference is neutral ground between like and dislike. i think acceptance takes work sometimes,just like love does. that's my current opinion anyway! but you know,it comes down to words being too limiting...because people have different definitions of words regardless of the dictionary definition.

so how do you know anything? that nebulous thing called intuition. which some people dont think they have...it's a different kind of intelligence,not depending on logic.

i know how logic is important to you,but have you ever experimented with just noticing if you ever feel...and i mean,FEEL...you know something?
possibly not...men in our society are not encouraged to do that.

"i think indifference is neutral ground between like and dislike. i think acceptance takes work sometimes,just like love does."

I don't this is true. Just because you're on neutral ground between like and dislike doesn't mean you can't have interest.

I'd say that:

disinterest + neutral ground = indifference

whereas

interest + neutral ground = acceptance

"so how do you know anything? that nebulous thing called intuition. which some people dont think they have...it's a different kind of intelligence,not depending on logic."

I'm pretty sure that intuition IS dependent on logic, just subconscious logic. That's why intuition, that gut feeling, DOESN'T equate with "knowing" - intuition is just subconsciously recognized possibility that's offered up to you conscious for perusal. It's governed by logic even at the subconscious level, that logic being the logic of the universe - probability.

"i know how logic is important to you,but have you ever experimented with just noticing if you ever feel...and i mean,FEEL...you know something?"

All the time. It's the intuition you speak of. (I call it insight and I actually consider it to be one of my strongest personal qualities.) I just go beyond that. I recognize intuition as probability rather than certainty, and therefore apply conscious-level logic to it before assigning belief.

You have to be careful, I think. From what I see of the people I've met, people are MUCH more prone to believe that which they want to be true (intuition) even in the face of evidence that it isn't, than believe something they don't want to be true even in the face of evidence that it is. (logic)

"possibly not...men in our society are not encouraged to do that.

It is one of the terrible facets of our society that the expression of emotion by men is so looked down upon. That doesn't mean men don't FEEL their emotions though. (Our brains are still wired the same after all.) What it does mean is that we start to associate other negative feelings such as guilt and anxiety with those original feelings, and so are less likely to accept and admit to ourselves consciously that we are indeed feeling those emotions.

What can be a real vicious loop is the one where men aren't supposed to feel anxiety (show no fear!) and so when they do, they suppress their recognition of it. Which can lead to anxiety. Which they suppress. Which leads to more anxiety. Which they suppress. Which leads to even more anxiety. Which they suppress. And on and on and on.

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