did i mention i looove guitars?

[bluegreen17]

jesus,i mean jebus.

i've never heard anyone talk about how great the guitars in new order songs! or maybe it's the bass. or both. sometimes i can't tell the difference,which i feel stupid about,but it's not for lack of trying.

new order is always considered the forerunner of techno bands and maybe they are...BUT...i like some techno but some of it makes me want to bang my head against the wall. i don't like the stuff that is just repetitive with no melody weaving in and out of it. i love rythmn,which is often repititious but it's usually not ALONE. even a drum solo has some change of pace in it,for crying out loud. actually,i like drum solos better than guitar solos,which i generally don't like. (i love rythmn guitar parts more than the lead parts) and i don't like modern jazz that goes all over the place and doesnt have ENOUGH repetition. hmmmm....

am i making any sense? alls i know is that i like what i like!
and i yam what i yam!

Comments

[arien.livejournal.com]

Peter Hook is a great bassist; one of the best in the genre. He plays bass like lead guitar, which is practically unheard of outside of gothic music. I wish he had more recognition.

bass playing etc.

[bluegreen17]

gothic music has interesting bass playing? any particular bands? wow. a couple of my favorite bass players are adam clayton of u2 and mike mills of r.e.m. mike's bass playing is very melodic and all over the place and works well with peter buck's guitar playing,which is more rhythm guitar than lead.

there's a great guitar part in 'crystal' that i think is actually the bass....i love it and wish i could know more of what i'm hearing.

anyway,i guess i like it sometimes when musicians do something different. not just for the sake of the difference,but because it sounds good.
i just watched 24 hour party people over the weekend and i'm sure part of it isn't true,but there's a funny bit where a producer is yelling at peter hook to 'stop playing the bass like a f**king guitar'. ha ha.

subjectivity

[dubpulse.livejournal.com]

ah but music is so subjective. You definately learn this working music retail and discussing music.

Funnily enough, it was always the stripped down sound of techno, the 808 drum machines, the 303 acid basslines, and the analog sounds and repetitive/trance-inducing element that really captivated me early on (c.1993 and previous to that). I find it so difficult to get into a lot of what passes for 'techno' now. They seem like over-produced pop songs a lot of the time. I try and reserve the term techno for anything that has that Detroit feel, stripped down and intended to make you just dance. I sometimes think where the whole electronic genre went awry was in trying to prove that they could be just like rock stars and forgetting that the real forum for the genre was the dancefloor and not car commercials and MTV.

Though, there is still so much good electronic music out there that is light years away from the dancefloor. Maybe I'm just a nostalgic old fart.

I seem to remember mentioning something about subjectivity.... lol. ;)

Re: subjectivity

[bluegreen17]

um,weren't you in that movie 'high fidelity'? ha.

you're right about the subjectivity,in spite of the fact that sometimes i'm *right* and my opinion is the *truth*. ha.

i really don't like rap,but i like the rap song that blondie did years and years ago called 'rapture'. again,because it was musical to my ears. i still don't think most rap/hip hop is MUSIC. it's poetry,but it's not music. just my opinion!

string theory

[bluegreen17]

i'm not very familiar with that song. but a guitar riff blasting in sounds great to me!
i'm a sucker for many stringed instruments...guitars,fiddles,banjos,cellos...even pianos are stringed instruments arent they? at least it looked that way when i looked inside my mom's old baby grand piano...